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This is Behind the Cut with Christopher Gronlund. The companion show to Not About Lumberjacks.
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Christopher Gronlund:
Behind the Cut is an in-depth look at the latest episode of Not About Lumberjacks and often contains spoilers from the most recent story. You’ve been warned…
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My first novel, Hell Comes with Wood Paneled Doors, was a screenplay before it was a novel. In the final scene of the screenplay, the one-time atheist protagonist, Michael, wears a cross around his neck. While it’s not as evident in the novel, Hell Comes with Wood Paneled Doors can be seen as a story about an atheist becoming a Christian.
The funny thing?
I’m a life-long atheist.
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I have always been, and will always be, an atheist.
When people hear I’m a life-long atheist who doesn’t believe in any gods or paranormal things, people assume I was raised that way. But my father was an altar boy growing up (which is a riot if you knew my father), and my mom was also raised very Catholic. Hell, my dad attended a Catholic school for boys, and while my mom attended public school, the church was a big part of her life growing up.
My parents divorced when I was five, and neither were particularly interested with instilling a sense of faith in my sister and me. I think my sister was Christened, but only to appease older family members. She believed in a variety of things at different points in her life—my mom did as well.
Growing up, my mom never forced religion on me. She thought maybe I had a bad experience with faith and talked about other kinds of Christianity beyond those I knew (that is: Catholics). She talked about Buddhists and Hindus and Muslims and metaphysical movements. I grew up with Jewish cousins, so I was very familiar with Judaism, even celebrating Passover and Hanukkah with them.
But none of the other things I was exposed to made any more sense to me than Christianity.
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So, why am I talking about this?
The latest Not About Lumberjacks story, “The Sinister Quilt of Agnes Burr,” is about a group of older women who unwillingly summon Satan through a quilt design.
Growing up an atheist, I was never pushy about it. In fact, I often hid it because, when classmates in junior high school found out I didn’t believe in God, I went from being pretty invisible to one of the most hated and picked on kids in Carl Sandburg Junior High. I was beaten, spit on, and ridiculed on a very regular basis by Christian kids.
While I sometimes write humorous stories with Christian imagery in them, I take care to not be an asshole about it. Most of my friends are Christian…maybe not by a huge percentage, but I’m sure at least a slight majority would say they’re Christian.
So, why would I rip on something so important to most of my friends?
I don’t.
Even when writing a story where Satan is a knock-about schlub with a sick sense of humor and a job he takes seriously, I approach things with these friends in mind. Any of Satan’s criticisms of Christians in “The Sinister Quilt of Agnes Burr” are criticisms of those who use Christianity as a political cudgel; not an overall criticism of a faith so many people I care about hold dear.
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I moved to Texas when I was 15. Not only did I move to Texas, I went from a decent-sized town in northern Illinois to a smaller town down here with a population not much bigger than my high school up north. (When I attended a meeting as a new student, I was told my new high school had 394 students.) Many of those students were fundamentalist Christians, so I hid being an atheist.
Of course, keeping secrets in a small school in a tiny town isn’t easy.
As a teenager, I believed I needed to be open-minded about religion, even though it took years for me to realize the people hoping—even demanding—that I consider their ways of thinking refused to listen to mine. They were right; I was wrong. In my efforts to be seen as open-minded, I went to many a conservative church in Texas when invited. I was promised eternal life, and on one occasion—in a roundabout way—told, “Look at that goofy motherfucker over there and his hot little wife. You can have that, Chris…all you gotta do is believe…”
I realized many Texas churches didn’t want to instill kindness for all in their parishioners—they wanted to win. Saving my soul didn’t seem as much about eternal life for me, but rather: a personal victory for them.
“I was the one to finally convert the life-long atheist pain in the ass!”
My favorite conversion tale is why I often write about the humorous side of religion…
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A high school friend invited me to a Bible study at his house. It was…weird. A guy in his late 20s or early 30s, who seemed to have a lewd eye on several girls in the room, gave his interpretation of the Bible.
Every one of his takes was twisted to his desires, much like the current administration in the U.S. uses faith to justify their not-so-Christlike ways…all in the name of Christ.
A guy named Adam recognized that I had checked out.
He said, “Hey, Chris—wanna go for a ride on my motorcycle?”
It was better than listening to the creepy pastor wannabe man with a clear fetish for teenaged girls…
We rode out to a long road that ended in a dead end. Adam looked back at me and said, “Chris, if I die right now, I know where my soul is going—do you know where yours will go?” And then he showed my how fast his motorcycle could go. At one point I looked over his shoulder, at a speedometer that could advance no further.
At the dead end, he shouted, “CHRIS, ARE YOU NOW READY TO ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST INTO YOUR HEART AS YOUR LORD AND PERSONAL SAVIOR?!”
I told Adam to fuck off, and ZOOOOOOOM, off we raced again.
After about the fifth time of being “open minded” and attending churches and Bible studies and considering things others wanted me to consider (but never listening to me), I made a vow to no longer waste my time.
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I mentioned stories I’ve written where Christianity is featured are humorous, but that’s not entirely true.
“Lakeview Estates” features a small-town church and a larger megachurch in another town. The protagonist trying to save the trailer park where he lives from being turned into a golf course meets with others at the church where they all grew up.
Before dropping out of the University of North Texas for financial reasons in the 90s, I was the night janitor at the First United Methodist Church in Denton, Texas. I understand the comfort and feelings of safety a church can provide. The fellowship and being around good stewards of the faith who have given their lives to helping others—not positioning themselves as thought leaders and twisting a faith to their cravings.
So even when writing a humorous tale about a crass and goofy Satan dragged into a living room in Quincy, Illinois against his will by a group of older women, I approach things with care. Granted, there are some who will never see that, or argue that making Satan an almost-likable schlub is wrong. But I usually write with an audience in mind, and “The Sinister Quilt of Agnes Burr” is no exception.
My Christian friends would likely agree with this story’s Satan that so many horrors in the world aren’t his doing, but on humanity…and that we’d all do better being kinder to each other.
Even most atheists I know believe we’re here to love each other…or at least not get in each other’s way.
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It’s likely “The Sinister Quilt of Agnes Burr” won’t be the last story I write in which faith is examined. I’ve long wanted to write a story about a small church trying to stay open when a megachurch comes to town…and “Lakeview Estates,” gives me that church and already familiar characters.
And last November’s “The Art of the End” is a spiritual story, whether one wants to see it being about Buddhism or—as intended—focusing on Zen meditation. (And yeah, I know…Zen is a Buddhist tradition, but westerners have a way of taking aspects they like about a spiritual concept and making it their own—Oskar Nilsson included.)
If you look at The Quick List page on the Not About Lumberjacks website, quite a few stories deal with gods—even the sci-fi adventure tale, “Rockbiters.”
People’s beliefs in “other things” shape our world, whether we like it or not.
It’s only natural to write about that now and then.
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I mentioned earlier that I’ve always been—and will always be—an atheist.
I’ve had many religious people over the years tell me that’s a close-minded way of looking at things.
But when I’ve asked them if they ever see a day when they are no longer Christians, the answer is always, “Of course not!”
I’d argue that running the gauntlet of so many churches, listening to friends of different faiths talk about what they love about their beliefs, and even spending hours talking to the Assistant Pastor at the church where I once worked is more open minded than those people.
It’s just not for me because the mechanics are all so easy to take apart—and it’s been that way since childhood.
But what I can’t take apart (nor would I want to) is what good believers of any faith hold in their hearts.
I like to think, in all the stories I’ve written where religion or other systems of deep belief are the focus, that I’ve treated it with respect…even if it’s Satan leaving a living room in Quincy, Illinois with a noxious fart as a final goodbye before returning to Hell…
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Thank you for listening to Not About Lumberjacks and Behind the Cut. Theme music for Behind the Cut is a tune called “Reaper” by Razen. Visit nolumberjacks.com for information about the music, the episodes, and voice talent.
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In May, several towns in northern Illinois undergo a sudden (and very strange) transformation.
Until next time: be mighty, and keep your axes sharp.